Well there was the Holy Spirit appearing as a dove at His baptism and saying, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” I wouldn’t be surprised, though, that when people told about that, the ones that weren’t there said, “How many wineskins were you passing around that day?”. When I was in a position where many emails I sent were requests, I would say something like “hi, no action needed” or “just something to read when you get a chance” or “for your records – I’ve already resolved this” instead of “FYI” – not because one was more polite, but so the other person didn’t have to worry. During manager shuffling, I’ve rarely had notice before the official announcement has been made. Hey, it just came to me, after all these years! I won’t be retiring any time soon! or have I just seen too many movies with the line “I expect your letter of resignation on my desk tomorrow morning”? It depends on your mail client–I can’t do that (I tried the last time it came up here!). I think having a formal announcement from the higher ups is a much better way to go, because they can talk about why the OP was selected for the position, and that s/he has their full support. And conversely, the concerns the OP has won’t change just because she’s delivering the message rather than mgmnt, I thought you will have a meeting (any meeting), where your manager will say “and by the way…”. FYI – the phones will be down for repair from 8-9 tomorrow or FYI – I am going to an appt. Log In. For many companies, it’s pretty much a formality for HR’s records. can I keep working from home after my office re-opens? I have received several excellent recommendations from employees of a company that I want to work for. And it is in OP3’s best interests to maintain it. Resigning after 23 years, instead of retiring? Privacy Policy and Affiliate Disclosures. Because people know what FYI means, and it makes it easy for them to parse that you don’t want them to do anything. This proposed “keeping you in the loop” apology will set up an expectation that the OP3 will share the wrong things with the team. whenyouseeitwaveorcheer Wed 22-Aug-12 20:30:31. I check my Email every day at least once, often more. Ten years later and I am proficient in government gibberish too! FYI, we were informed that we may have had a potential COVID exposure from a customer on Saturday evening (8/1). General Greeting Card by KissMeKwik. TRUE: It implies that the person saying it claims to have a lot more knowledge of a fact than the addressee. As a manager, there WILL be times when you have to withhold information – until the appropriate time. Do they want to try to file for unemployment, even though they’re quitting? YES! Create New Account. FYI FYI is a common abbreviation of "For Your Information". I do think you could ask the Next Level Up to send an email to your team directly BEFORE they send one out to the larger group. I am the captain now”. And it’s important to keep those sorts of lines of confidentiality well established. Though, I have to be really careful about how much my face “tells” sometimes, when I don’t want it to. Example: You: "That dog is so cute!" Right. Log In. jobs before and had never been asked for written documentation that I had voluntarily resigned. They’d probably make excellent tutors. Depends on the circumstance and the tone of voice. Not only do you run the risk of exposure, you can also damage your own reputation with the recipient. I’m more concerned about that than I am about her seeing students’ information, although that’s a concern too. I see FYI used sarcastically or passive-aggressively a lot on online comment threads. I don’t think an apology is necessary, but since the OP thinks it’s odd, I don’t think it hurts to show that s/he wanted to bring them in. Writing an email that comes across just like you do in person is a fine art. See more of Rude and Rotten Republicans on Facebook. 8cghck fg fbzbfzfhz. That being said, we do OVERUSE it, which is a problem. doesn’t a letter of resignation have the undertone that it is basically a firing? Documentation purposes only. I also do not prefer getting messages via linkedin. I like your wording there. It really wasn’t so much about “kid gloves” as it was about sensitivity to what my team has been through in the past. I believe it’s possible in some states if you argue that the employer passively forced you out, but in those cases you’re still resigning anyway. I’ve never been fired, or even laid off, and I’ve been asked to provide a letter of resignation at every job I’ve left. It IS a valuable skill! I’ve been at my job 18 years, and just turned 40. I’ve never seen someone do that – it’s always announced by the person above them. No information about where you’re going, why you’re leaving. I think that is pretty much always Email. We get important messages with “FYI” “Please Read” “Memo.” Nothing else. We should firstly think about the situation or the environment where we are. Well, "FYI, this is the suckiest class I've ever, like, had" is possibly going to be perceived as impolite. I’m assuming that your team knows your original manager is moving on, and that the position was open, and now it’s closed. We must use it properly. Yeah, at my last job HR was so notoriously disorganized that having a clear summary of exactly when your last day in the office was and if you were tacking any vacation days on at the end was crucial in case they forgot to notify payroll or gave them the wrong info. I agree with Alison, context is everything. Accessibility Help. But when used in spoken language, it DOES come across more as: “Here’s some information that you didn’t know, you dummy” which is where the problem lies. I would be super upset about missing out on the Hawaii job. FYI: Bloom is the result of improperly tempering chocolate. It’s already a huge jump for me from where they’re sitting: basically from Teapot Representative to Master of Teapots in a very short period of time. “Proclaiming” is actually how it will be taken if you gather the team and say “…now i am the boss!”. I know there’s nothing to worry about in this case and the letter is no big deal, but in general, I think the OP is wise to hesitate and check with a 3rd party before building documentation like that without understanding the purpose. So, instead of writing "For your information" you would simply write "FYI" to get your point across. I actually didn’t realize it was so particular to the military/gov’t…probably should have though, considering that’s where I learned it. I don’t think that necessarily has to be in person – over email to the team would be fine with me and I think pretty normal – but definitely wait for the boss to tell everyone. I’m not sorry about it, and I certainly would not apologize to them for it. Is “FYI” rude? Nope! If your team gets into a kerfuffle because some “big shot” comes in with an announcement, or they don’t like it that you got a promotion then you have a real problem. I am wondering if it’s even worth mentioning. YES. She/he shouldn’t have -wanted- to bring them in to the process of applying to become the manager of the department. #5 – I”d love to know why you don’t want to do this. There is a lot of history with my workplace that facilitated this worry; I have no problem holding my team to standards, but I was concerned about their perception of the announcement, which I think is fair. Drives me nuts! Para su información : Bloom es el resultado de mal temple chocolate. Ditto. 5. Would not a resignation letter signed by employer be an insurance policy for such a situation? However, both HR and my now-direct-manager have asked me to wait to tell my team. Yeah, that’s ridiculous. But I’d let it come from them, rather than from you, so that you can avoid an Alexander Haig “I’m in control here” moment. But then I can make my face take on a pointed, concerned look that is the equivalent of screaming “WTF are you doing!”. And these would come from people who were not known for acting on requests in a timely fashion, so it was dangerous to assume that they’d take ownership. :). Not Now. But that’s more about my supervisor, not the use of FYI…. So I did, and they just offered it to me (hurray)! “FYI” is only one in a million acronyms that is already existed. I am writing about a similar issue you raise in this post (“coworker’s husband hangs out in our office every afternoon”). People cannot resist passing on every single idea or piece of info they come across, so it becomes FYI overload. A LIL it sounds like ure a brat depends on who says it i guess but its a lil rude to ME, Yeah especially when some bitchy girl or some guy with a nasal sounding voice does. Follow edited Dec 16 '14 at 22:13. choster. I actually did personally tell them all today that I took the position, and that a formal announcement from corporate would follow. and maybe saving the company from paying unemployment benefit. I'm a very private person, so this is a bit difficult for me. By all means explain to them your qualifications if others don’t. Over on Twitter, fans can find the topic 'Thank You Mappa' trending around the … “If I were your Next Level Up person, I’d be alarmed, actually, that you want to be the one to announce it; it would indicate to me that perhaps you don’t understand where your authority comes from (it flows down from above), and that you might become the sort of rogue manager who won’t get with the company program.”, That seems like a bit of a leap..in the end, i don’t think it matters either way what the method of communication is—once you’re up and running in the managerial role what difference will it make. What’s the lesson here? Hopefully no one is watching. Poll: What is the most disturbing children's film you've ever seen? Well, now I’m sitting at my desk practicing my “WTF are you doing” face. At my office, we use it as shorthand for “for your information; no action needed.”. I have been working for my dream org for about seven months. The OP has been in this role for so long, I’m thinking he/she just didn’t realize it was the norm and wanted to make sure it made sense before putting something in writing. Ditto. I didn’t see if for a couple of weeks or more and by that time, they had moved on. But that also involved John the Baptist, and he was known for sleeping on rocks and eating locusts, so… yeah. I'm not talking about adding FYI to a subject bar so the I'm not talking about adding FYI to a subject bar so the If you are part of an organisation, your authority stems from the fact that someone higher up appointed you. Socially it would bother me. Fyi, yes. What did Gandalf mean in fellowship of the ring? Is it better to contact someone via email or LinkedIn? Copyright © 2007 - 2021 Ask A Manager. You never know when your sensitive email can get into the hands of another party. That being said, we do OVERUSE it, which is a problem. Yup, I’ve done that sometimes–the problem is that then it’s me, not the original sender, who turns up in a search for/sort by the sender. Improve this question. Sign Up. I thought that I should since I know Spanish, … There are myriad ways to express a sentiment similar to the one you describe. Everything seems so fragile right now, I’m hesitant to make a move. It doesn’t have to be long and heartfelt – a simple, “I am resigning from position XX. If we use “FYI” in email, it is mostly polite, and a receiver understands what it means. The only thing that annoys me is when my supervisor will forward me something as “FYI” that I already know about and am usually on the distribution list for–and she’ll usually do it a week after it was originally sent. Back when I was young and still struggling with professional norms, there were at least a couple of times when a raised eyebrow from a passing higher-up was just enough feedback to save me from making a foolish mistake. The person who would have been making the announcement is not well liked, as their communication style is rather brusque. I know anything that helps me find an email later is a good thing. Also, ideally you would have just sent him the resume rather than asking if he wanted you to; there’s no need to have a whole email chain about it when it’s more efficient to just include it the first time. This way, I’ll know it’s okay to not spend the time writing back, and you’ll get one less email.” 4) You’re in the CC field. 1. Facebook. It’s just standard business behaviour. I wonder if calling it a letter of resignation is making it sound more formal than it often is. And a valuable service to the employee, although he may not appreciate it as such right away. 10-33 Emergency – all units stand by Ditto! this is awesome. I swear we speak our own language. And in this case she’s already gone. Same here, but for me this is the first office setting where that was normal. I still think you’re wrong about having it come from you. I think it’s a good thing — it provides a written record of the date that you gave notice and of your intended last working day. Not sure why I all caps’d OVERUSE. So that was your announcement of your departure? If you think about it, this was a problem that Jesus faced 2000 years ago: He could tell people He was the Son of God, and some people would believe Him. I think it means "by the way", and followed with information that is less important than other content. A resignation letter is a letter, not a contract, and the recipient of a letter doesn’t sign it. 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