This surprised me. Attempting to buy Marlboro ("Marborrghro?") Even Japanese speakers of English try to get jobs where they can speak English but in order to do so they may even have to take a pay cut -- for their skill! How many times have you watched TV when it's all about people laughing at English mistakes. "I'm not in charge of the periscope this year." What you say is only true because of years of repeated errors by language barbarians; they've erased subtle differences through continual misuse to the point that the dictionary-compilers sigh and surrender to the inevitable. And considering Japan is in a 20+ year recession, they could use the business. Some high schools have reading libraries and presentations and school trips abroad and school exchanges. 2- 5 years’ teaching experience in international education; Experience working in a multicultural environment; Experience planning and implementing after-school activities 8. Lastly, while I'll offend the guys on the JET program, maybe it would be better the other way around. We are talking about a different form of education. ”One hint to all contributors - make it a habit to RE-READ what you write, before posting anything connected with your name. What’s wrong with English education in Japan? I told him that I did not say half of the things he said to the kids. Problems of education after World War 2 and in the future in Japan ... the power of Japanese education is not going down so much, but the situation is sever for poor families, so they have to change the situation. At the end of the day she was making money with her school and good luck to her, but to me she encapsulated everything that was wrong with English language education in Japan. And most times, Japanese superiors have been reluctant to criticize me or train me at all. Languages have grammar. I think there has been or will be a policy change. If you look at the modern Japanese people, they are well aware that they are constantly being criticized all thier lives since childhood by other nationalities. Then you need to overhaul how it's taught, as many have alluded to here. With their spending power and access to networks, the Japanese have tremendous potential to pick and encourage some of these methods, but to me it just seems like they are content in a comfortable shell waving to the world as it whizzes by! Almost no foreigners will develop this ability because they will never study Japanese, but it's incorrect to say that foreigners cannot develop this ability. Distinguishing r and l or n and ng is almost never possible, though a student may mimic the sounds without realizing the difference. When she spoke though, it was like she was speaking Matsuyama Japanese using English words. I suspect there is a connection. It is also interesting to know just how many borrowed words there are in hiragana-Japanese. His view is that the goals for learning any foreign language can be classified accord-ing to three aims: “language as an end,” “language as a means,” and “language for communication.” “Language as an end” implies the study of a language for its own sake. There is no definitive English any more - it's a world language that is living, evolving and entirely different in different places. Compared with other countries in Asia, Japan is far behind in terms of introducing and delivering bilingual education, let alone effective immersion programmes. Obviously for most people that 'something' will not be there for Latin, and as you say, for every student who gets their jollies from studying a dead language and splashing around in the Classics, there are dozens - probably scores (hundreds?) Teachers should be fluent in more than one foreign languages and be ready to study any language of the world. The true cause of the ineffectiveness of English education in Japan is lack of vocabulary. It is not only in English Japanese are afraid of taking chances. For hardcopy review. When you start to use your lips or throat then it becomes more difficult. Luca who can speak good Japanese and Spanish, can also wax apparently lyrical in "foreign language double-talk," like Sid Caesar and Tamori. Establish systems of commendation for good teachers or good schools. We hope those responsible for English language development will consider the professional research. I answered, "I'm from New York but I live in [nantoka]Machi, not too far from here." In just over a year, Japanese elementary schools will be expected to fully adopt the new curriculum proposed for English education. When students are forced to learn a subject without understanding the reasons why, they are bound to fail. The JTEs have to teach these archaic forms through topics such as recycling plastic, people and animals dying in WWII and boring Japanese history, causing students to be apathetic. Universities and high schools 3.1.1. Cleo, I agree with your initial comments about making mistakes. And from what I hear from other students, she is not alone. I'm not referring to a simple case of accent. As for l and r, again you are incorrect. Foreign language students in US high schools don't tend to graduate fluent in their chosen foreign language, at least speaking/hearing. "I looked at a movie" is going to get your meaning across. Pay is another touchy aspect. I had great fun when I went to Japan I stayed in the youth hostels and I helped the Japanese staff to speak , sorry improve there English, I tried to explain there is a difference in the R and L IE London road, and red is a loverly colour, they repeated (in frustration) to pronounce them, as they told me they never practice English this way before and were amazed ...all good fun, just learning English from a text book is ok but it does not inter react with the language, I also have a friend in Tokyo and she is a translator, her emails are superb in fact better than some of the local kids near me who can't string a full sentence together without grammatical errors, as she addmits she can't speak a word of English, how odd! Excellent article; I hear complaints regularly from adults who supposedly learned English in school but can't put a sentence together; they're not too happy with that. Just look at companies like Sony and Panasonic. For many people in Japan, both in their work and personal lives, April is often seen as a time of new beginnings, and of transition. Because it gives them nothing, and means nothing to them. ;-) The point is, once they decided that everyone would get foreign language instruction at a young age, they had to pick SOME language. Lookit all the kids today who will happily spend hours reading a comic book or playing a video game just to get to the end; that's not stuff they're going to be tested on. This article was spot on and many of your comments are as well - but this article is talking to us, those of us who are in the trenches and see this every single day. I know from experience that children will never become good English speakers if their teachers don’t speak English. They cruise through junior high using just the simple past for all their needs, and then the more 'difficult' bits of grammar are thrown at them in senior high or the last year of junior high, and suddenly what was right before is now not right, and they don't understand why they're now getting X where they previously got ○. Or that they are not understood if they do? Basically, half the foreigners teaching English here wouldn't know the grammatical terms you used in some of your posts. Ca veux dire, apres de je me suis trouve' que je peux parler japonais, je sais que, je sais, je peux parle' en mal francais, je peux parler en francais affreux! And come to think of it, in all my years here, I have never recieved training from a Japanese person as to how to do those things. I don't question the utility of learning English, nor the value of being multilingual; I think it's very valuable, and can be very rewarding. I decided on FAMILY MART where I bought some CHIKIN and an ENERGI DRINKU. They are also less likely to misspell English compared to other non native speakers. Shall we continue? Of course, most of these were imported hundreds of years ago from China. Some of you commenting here see things through your own perspective but forget to realise that you are highly motivated and basically smarter and more gifted linguistically than most people. Skype is just slightly better, requiring participants on both sides of the Pacific Ocean to immerse in the environment. And so, Japanese Teachers of English (JTEs) focus on the grammar and vocabulary that will be on the test. The reason the present perfect is difficult for Japanese is that modern Japanese do not have the present perfect. Nevertheless this does in no way affect our pride of speaking our very own variant of German nobody else in the world will understand. The problem is not that JTEs are bad or foreign teachers are bad or that the Japanese school system is bad. Problems of education after World War 2 and in the future in Japan Japanese version, here Shoji Sugita The main reasons for the problems educational in Japan stem from very fast economic progress and technological development post WW2. There is no physiological or mental reason Japanese cannot learn the "more difficult" languages.... except one. And in my opinion that's where the problem is. She was not incompetent in the language, but her spoken English was all but unintelligible. There is also the fact that many of their teachers (both Japanese and "native") can't speak the other language, impressing upon students that 'this is a gap that can not be bridged." I felt it came out of his mouth so naturally that I followed it up with a How are you?, and he replied, GREAT! Things got dumb down including the end of Saturday classes. Why do other countries excel in English as a second language? It is the international language of business. Students in junior high and high school would regularly be sent abroad to boost their English language skills, and schools and the government would create more opportunities in which students could encounter English within Japan. @mikeylikeit - you've basically explained why your idea in paragraph one (more experienced native teachers) will never happen in paragraph two (junior teachers must follow senior teachers). They need to focus on both writing and communicating because when a student writes "boru" instead of ball thats what theyll say and when they say "boru" thats what theyll write. I don't dispute what you're saying at all. It's all of these, which is to say, it's varied and different all over the world. Depends on who you happen to talk to I guess, but in Thailand, China, Korea, and Taiwan, I was able to communicate more easily. I do not believe Japan is any more or less complex. In that little bit of time per day, the student is using both native and foreign language. If it's to communicate, then spelling is pretty much irrelevant, as we don't spell things out when speaking. Not according the vast majority of Japanese. However, this lie is often used as a defense mechanism by Japanese. It would be useless to try to solve the problems of bullying and school rejection unless some measures are taken to dismantle the structure of diplomatism. Most of the Japanese participants are highly educated researchers or experts in international affairs. That doesn't mean every lesson should be a vapid, content-free 'let's enjoy Engrish' singing and dancing extravaganza; just make it meaningful, interesting and rewarding. I'm not saying that anyone should be forbidden to learn English, obviously. the other thing is there can never be enough english-speakers to help students practice speaking. When asked, "What did you do last night?" I really wonder how will knowing English prononciation would help Japan ? the present perfect, but because the present perfect is 'too difficult', the present perfect verbs are all changed to the simple past, producing a passage that is not natural English; and that is what the student study. That is the problem exactly, teaching English using the Japanese syllabary means that the pronunciation is almost always wrong. I worked for one Japanese lady in Ehime who still runs 2-3 schools. Japanese English is quite often blunt, terse, and appears to be condescending, haughty, and occasionally downright rude. The English language is full of an amazing amount of slang and commonly incomplete sentences that any speaker would be able to comprehend (I can understand "that, get, me" as well as I understand "Get that for me"). The biggest motivation to study for teenagers all of the world is still the short-term goal i.e. The level of Japanese education is high even by world standards. This is a very difficult thing to learn. Nah, just my own, admittedly somewhat anecdotal, experience. Japanese and foreigners have the same number of teeth. Unless you've tried to teach English to people who have never had any English education you'll take this for granted. Is there any other country that teaches "Romanji" english? There are many points in your post above I'd consider quote worthy. I may be accused of being elitist if I say, "Do we need everyone to speak English in this country?" Just realised I used "disinterested" instead of "uninterested". But English conversation classes tend to be facile. My god, sincere apologies! They have a "Games and Puzzles for English as a Second Language" book that looks interesting but I haven't seen it in person. IT education is a subject in school so it's not as if they have zero technology education. Current status of special needs schools in Japan. Reality is that most English speakers in the world are NOT native speakers. The basic outline of Japanese public school education is outlined in a series of documents created by the Ministry of Education, Sports, Culture and Technology (MEXT). Why would any kid spend their time studying something that they are not tested on? To go back to Cleo's point about being taught mistakes are to be avoided at all costs, this is the biggest problem Japan faces. Just one of the problems for each student (and, as it turned out, me) was that without knowing even the title of the essay, to say nothing of having not been privy to the introductory paragraphs, it was difficult to know "just what the hell is this?" That's maybe affecting their English learnings yes. This tendency to attempt to learn (as opposed to acquire, Kraschen) English is compounded by the fact that it is so much more easy to learn Japanese through the mastery of a mere 2000 kanji. Then there are the legions of Japanese English teachers who do not know English and teach only in Japanese. Japan isn't the only culture to make noise about this, but from what I know it may be the worst. Get the Japanese English teachers going overseas or somewhere in Japan where they use real English with native speakers. I think that this is a case of English being looked at as an abstraction, a novelty, a gimmick. Companies in other parts of Asia don't even bother when trying to drum up inter-Asian business, because the means just aren't there for the most part. My Japanese friend (father) also spoke to his children in English since they were born and both kids speak English (and Japanese) fluently by the time they were in kindergarten. But this of course, goes right to the heart of the structure and methodology of the Japanese educational style - and there is no way I can see that changing anytime soon. TOKYO. If they are so smart, they could speak it with no problem. Keep in mind leaning a second language is a different job from learning mother language, and I do not expect an answer that this method works for native speakers, so should it for Japanese. As I see it, at the moment, the whole thing is a complete mess. If it's to pass a written test, then yeah, spelling is important. May have class sessions like that, too. “This is the education ministry’s fiasco” (Nikkei), “English education should not rely on private-sector tests” (Sankei) and “Classes must be reformed before reforming exams” (Asahi). So, it may be difficult for you to relate to the average Joe learning things. No consequences equals "I dont give a rats ass.". Yes. The teacher translated it as, "He says he has a girlfriend back home in America.". Thank you verry mach is incorrect so ya they lose the marks. Pronunciation difficulty is not only about the number of sounds, but what muscles you need to use to make them. For some, it’s a breeze while others struggle. Secondly, they should spend 6 years learning what they now learn in 3 years. JTEs have to teach these archaic forms through topics such as... people and animals dying in WWII... and [words] like "Freeze!". I'm pretty sure you meant to say relegated. CH3CHO, what I was pointing out was the totally erroneous lie that "Japanese is easier" than English. I don't disagree with the article, but it strikes me as a bit superficial. They have "I saw a movie", "I watched a movie", "I looked (at) a movie". The number 1 problem I see in English "education" in Japan is just that - Japanese arrogance. I think that Cleo's point, as well as a point brought up in the article, is that Japan focuses too much on writing, and not enough on communication. WE NEED TO CHANGE! "Every foreigner who spends any amount of time in Japan will understand the fundamental need to change the way students study English". If it doesn't look, act, or sound Japanese they are in a state of confusion, or disbelief. Neither role is an accurate representation of what is needed for language acquisition. Well, winter is coming. As for starting English earlier on a casual level (no testing! 4 uncomfortable truths about teaching English in Japan. The author is spot on. The future for Japan is not so rosy. Until auto-translators for all languages are perfected English will probably continue to be the language of international business. who cares about English terminology) "l/r" and consonant clusters like the end of "clothes" ("ths") are I believe, simply more difficult to pronounce, objectively, for humans, that Japanese phonemes, like a, i, u, e, o, ka, ki, ku, ke, ko, sa, shi, su, se, so, ta, chi, tsu (difficult? And finally, I don't really mind what is connected with the name Peacetrain. According to the Jiji Press article, the English-language proficiency level for Japanese was ranked 53rd in an annual survey of 100 non-English speaking countries and regions by EF Education First, down from 49th place in last year’s survey. Even more specifically, many people found the choice of grammar included to be suspect, saying it wasn’t grammar used very often in native English. gaijin6000, Which countries are the 3rd world contries? However, amidst the atmosphere … As an aside, I taught in japan for most of the 00s. For example, students are given made-up passages to read and study that use (e.g.) They need to be taught that with English ability, they can work in foreign countries, without they cannot. I'd put that at more than half the problem. "but that led on to actually reading in the original stuff like the love poems of Catullus and the very words that folk like Julius Caesar had written 2000 - two thousand!! They need to focus on both writing and communicating because when a student writes "boru" instead of ball thats what theyll say and when they say "boru" thats what theyll write. Three of the major problems are student’s lack of creativity, lack of freedom, and lack of future vision. With all the English teachers trying to be economists on here it maybe interfering with their classes. But that doesn't fit in with the way classes are scheduled at K-12. They also are going with the main purpose of pronunciation, as many falsely think that Japanese don't speak English only because they didn't hear native pronunciation early enough. They should be spelling the words correctly. I really wonder how will knowing English prononciation would help Japan ? "Why not American learn Japanese in their school ?" It's not only Japanese that are guilty of this. CHANGE the non-native teachers! So it doesn’t really matter what happens in class. 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